Dr. Avram Mack
Commonwealth
- Role
- Psychiatrist, called by the Commonwealth as its first rebuttal witness. The Boston Globe places him practicing and teaching in Philadelphia and gives his expertise as forensic psychiatry.
- Direct
- Sprague
- Cross
- Reddington
- ON THE STAND AND UNDER CROSS-EXAMINATION. He resumed at about 9:18, by video link, with Kevin Reddington's cross-examination — begun at about 14:50 on Friday and unfinished at the weekend break — still running. Boston Globe, and no other outlet has yet reported from today's sitting.
- CROSS — HOW OFTEN HE HAS TESTIFIED ON THE QUESTION IN ISSUE. At about 9:21 Reddington asked him how many times he had testified in court on criminal responsibility. Mack estimated one or two, which the Globe notes would make this case about his third. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHAT KIND OF PSYCHIATRIST HE IS. He told the jury he considers himself a generalist, giving adolescent mental health and addiction among his focuses. The Globe frames it against Reddington's suggestion on Friday that he has little experience treating postpartum patients. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — PRIOR CASES IN WHICH JUDGES QUESTIONED HIS QUALIFICATIONS. At about 9:24 Reddington put such cases to him. Mack acknowledged having formed opinions in comparable cases, but said he did not recall the cases Reddington raised, or disagreed with the way Reddington characterized the rulings. The Globe does not name the cases. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — A FLORIDA LAWSUIT, AND WHETHER HIS EVIDENCE THERE WAS STRUCK. At about 9:29 he was asked about an earlier Florida case concerning the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. He said he did not believe his testimony in it had been struck. The Globe gives no more of the case than that. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — HOW HE EXAMINED THE DEFENDANT. He confirmed that he saw Clancy at Tewksbury Hospital in April, on two separate days, and that a colleague carried out psychological testing. He said he stayed at a private home in Wellesley while the evaluation was going on and did not know where his colleague stayed. Nothing yet reported explains what Reddington was driving at. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — CONTACT WITH THE PROSECUTORS, AND THE RECORDS HE READ. At about 9:36 he said he had spoken with the prosecutors by telephone before he evaluated Clancy. He described reviewing Department of Children and Families records from February 2023 that included an interview with Patrick Clancy, and said those records recorded no earlier instance of Lindsay Clancy abusing her children. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHEN HE FIRST MET HER, AND WHAT HE IS PAID. At about 9:38 Reddington established that Mack did not meet Clancy until 2026, roughly three years after January 24, 2023, and that he earns several hundred thousand dollars a year from forensic evaluations. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — CONFIRMATION BIAS, PUT TO HIM DIRECTLY. In the same minute Reddington asked him to define confirmation bias; Mack agreed with the sense of gathering information that confirms an idea already held. Asked whether he had hoped to assist the prosecutors who hired him, he answered no. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — HOW LONG THE FIRST INTERVIEW RAN. At about 9:41 he put the initial interview at Tewksbury Hospital at four or five hours, conducted with a colleague. He said Clancy did not ask for a break and remained polite in answering, and that they discussed her catheter schedule while questioning her. The psychological testing was done by his colleague the following day. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — TESTS FOR TRUTHFULNESS OF RESPONSES. At about 9:46 he acknowledged familiarity with tests Reddington raised for gauging whether a subject is answering truthfully. He said one of them measures personality and was not designed as a lie detector. The Globe does not name the tests. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHETHER SHE WAS MALINGERING, AND WHAT HIS OWN TESTING SHOWED. At about 9:49 Reddington asked whether someone indicted for murder would be motivated to fabricate mental health symptoms; Mack answered not necessarily. He said the psychological testing his colleague administered effectively showed the procedure was valid — that Clancy was answering truthfully rather than malingering. It is a concession from the Commonwealth's own rebuttal expert on a point the defense has to hold. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — A SHARP EXCHANGE ABOUT HIS DEMEANOR. At about 9:52, pressing him on the tests for exaggerated symptoms, Reddington objected to Mack smiling on the video link and told him it was not funny. He asked whether Mack knew that Clancy had shown no indication whatsoever of exaggerating her symptoms in the testing. The Globe records the question and Reddington's rebuke but not Mack's answer. Boston Globe alone.
- BIPOLAR SYMPTOMS AND THE SSRI QUESTION. At about 9:55 he said he was aware of symptoms of bipolar disorder in Clancy, and that the medical caution about prescribing SSRI antidepressants to patients with bipolar disorder has lessened in recent years. The medication record is the defense's ground, so this is his answer on it. Boston Globe alone.
- HIS SECOND SESSION, AND THE DIAGNOSIS HE REACHED. He put the second of his two sessions with Clancy at about three hours, and said he concluded she had a major depressive disorder. The Globe reports counsel called to sidebar immediately after that answer. Boston Globe alone.
- HIS OPINION ON CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY, RESTATED BEFORE TEN. At about 9:59, after the sidebar, he said he had determined that Clancy was in a major depressive episode at the time of the killings but retained the ability to appreciate the wrongfulness of her conduct. He noted that a colleague had diagnosed her with bipolar II, which he described as carrying no history of a full manic episode. It is the same opinion the Globe reported him giving on Friday. The entries do not say whether this came on continued cross-examination or on redirect. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHETHER BIPOLAR DISORDER PRECEDES POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION, AND WHEN ONSET COUNTS. At about 10:05 Reddington asked whether bipolar disorder is a precursor to postpartum depression. Mack said it depends on whether the patient has a mood disorder and on the timeframe of onset, and gave the guidelines as onset within four weeks for the postpartum period and within six weeks for postpartum psychosis; Reddington put longer periods to him from guidelines he cited in turn. The Globe describes this exchange as cross-examination. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — NO SIGNS OF MANIA IN THE HOSPITAL. In the same exchange he said Clancy has not demonstrated any signs of mania at Tewksbury Hospital. Mania is the element his opinion turns on: he told the jury on Friday that he found no mania or hypomania to support bipolar disorder or psychosis before the killings, and this puts the same absence in her presentation since. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHAT SHE TAKES NOW, AND HER SLEEP BEFORE THE KILLINGS. At about 10:08 he listed the medications Clancy currently takes at Tewksbury Hospital — the Globe does not name them — and said she had reported problems sleeping when a provider increased her dosage before the killings, describing her as having wanted to sleep and having tried hard to without succeeding. Reddington put to him that she had gone forty-eight hours without sleep after that increase; the Globe records the assertion but not Mack's answer. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — THE CLINICIANS WHO DIAGNOSED BIPOLAR DISORDER. At about 10:11 Reddington listed the mental health clinicians who have diagnosed Clancy with bipolar disorder, before and after the killings, and asked whether that was a strong indicator that a person could be suffering from postpartum depression. Mack said the question confused him. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — HOW LONG THE POSTPARTUM PERIOD RUNS. For diagnostic purposes Mack put it at four weeks from the birth. The Globe notes that other experts have rejected that definition and extend the period to a year or longer. Reddington told him postpartum is not a disease and that every woman who has given birth remains postpartum. Mack held to his opinion of major depressive episodes without psychosis. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WANTING SLEEP AGAINST NOT NEEDING IT. At about 10:20 he agreed that the guidelines give a decreased need for sleep as one element of mania, and said that in his view Clancy desperately wanted to sleep. It is the distinction his opinion rests on, her insomnia being depression rather than mania on his account. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — MAJOR DEPRESSIVE EPISODES AFTER THE THIRD BIRTH. Asked about signs of postpartum depression, he confirmed that Clancy had major depressive episodes following the birth of her third child. Reddington put to him that her score on one depression scale was nearly off the charts, and Mack acknowledged that she was in distress. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — THE SYMPTOMS SHE REPORTED TO HER PROVIDERS. He gave an inability to laugh as an indicator of major depression, and said Clancy had reported anxiety, worry without an apparent cause and feeling overwhelmed to her providers. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHAT THE FLORIDA TESTIMONY WAS ABOUT. On the Patriot Ledger's account of the same passage the Globe recorded at about 9:29, Mack had testified for the state of Florida that beneficiaries of state aid should be drug tested. Reddington characterized that testimony as resting on needy people being more inclined to violence, drug use and suicide; Mack said that was not the correct conceptualization, and Reddington answered that this was merely Mack's own view. Asked whether his testimony had been stricken, Mack said he did not believe that it was. Patriot Ledger for the substance.
- CROSS — THE COLLEAGUE HAS A NAME. The Patriot Ledger identifies the colleague who went with Mack to Tewksbury Hospital, sat through the four-to-five-hour first interview and carried out the psychological testing as Dr. Kirk Heilbrun, himself an expert witness for the Commonwealth. The Globe reported the same facts without the name.
- CROSS — WHAT BIPOLAR DISORDER LOOKS LIKE. Asked to describe the condition, Mack listed flights of ideas, distractibility, engagement in pleasurable activities with painful consequences, pressured speech and grandiosity. Patriot Ledger alone.
- CROSS — HE SAID NO TO BIPOLAR II IN TERMS. Asked directly whether he had concluded that Clancy suffered from a major mental disease or defect, namely bipolar II, Mack said no, and clarified that what he had concluded was a major depressive episode as part of a major depressive disorder. Told that she has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder at Tewksbury, he asked to be shown where. Patriot Ledger alone.
- CROSS — THE COMMONWEALTH'S OTHER EXPERT DIAGNOSED BIPOLAR II. Mack agreed that Dr. Kirk Heilbrun made a diagnosis of bipolar II. Heilbrun is the colleague who evaluated Clancy with him and is himself on the Commonwealth's witness list. The Globe recorded the bipolar II diagnosis without naming its author; the Patriot Ledger names him.
- CROSS — WHO ELSE HAS DIAGNOSED BIPOLAR DISORDER. The clinicians Reddington listed are, on the Patriot Ledger's account, nurse practitioner Rebecca Jollotta, who raised the possibility, and Dr. Paul Zeizel, Dr. Margaret Spinelli and Dr. Phillip Resnick, all of whom evaluated Clancy and diagnosed bipolar disorder. Patriot Ledger for the names.
- CROSS — THOUGHTS OF HARMING HERSELF, AND WHAT WOULD COUNT AS PSYCHOSIS. At about 10:25 Mack said Clancy had also indicated she had thoughts of harming herself. Asked whether postpartum depression can be followed by postpartum psychosis, he said he could not answer. He said that hearing voices would be psychosis. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — A PERIOD IN THE RECORDS WHERE SHE WORRIED PEOPLE COULD HEAR HER THOUGHTS. At about 10:31 Mack said he had come across such a period in his review of the records. He said she was suffering, and that she at times felt things were not real, or felt uncomfortable. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — ASKED WHETHER POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS IS A LEGITIMATE DISEASE. Mack answered that the presence of psychosis is always concerning and that psychiatric guidelines give a time frame for its onset after a birth. The Globe does not report him answering the question yes or no. Boston Globe alone. CBS Boston, in a narrative carrying no timestamps, gives an answer: he described symptoms of psychosis in the postpartum period as a legitimate finding, something to be concerned about and to treat.
- CROSS — HE SAID THE RECORD SHOWS NO EVIDENCE OF PSYCHOSIS. At about 10:37, minutes after acknowledging a period in the records in which Clancy worried people could hear her thoughts, Mack said he found no evidence of psychosis in her record. He allowed that she had reported intrusive thoughts and had indicated that at times things did not feel real, and said neither necessarily amounts to psychosis; nor, he said, does appearing composed between mood episodes. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — HE WOULD NOT SAY WHETHER SEVERE SLEEP LOSS POINTS TO POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS. Asked at about 10:37, Mack said he could not answer the question as Reddington had framed it. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — NO POSITION ON THE STANDARD OF CARE SHE RECEIVED. At about 10:40 Mack said he held no position on the standard of care Clancy received from her medical providers. He noted that she had reported suicidal ideation, said he was not certain whether she lacked awareness of her own condition, and said blood work can be required or needed before certain psychiatric medications are prescribed. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHAT HE TAKES THE POSTPARTUM PERIOD TO BE, AND THE AUTHORITY HE USES. At about 10:30 he said that making a diagnosis in psychiatry requires an authority and that he uses the DSM for it. The Globe's entry in this minute gives his DSM figure for the postpartum period as four months after the birth, and notes that Clancy's youngest child was eight months old; the same blog gave the figure as four weeks at 10:05 and again at 10:11. The two do not agree and the conflict is recorded rather than resolved. Boston Globe alone.
- CROSS — WHETHER HER PROVIDERS EVER TOOK BLOOD WORK. At about 10:43 he said he did not recall records showing that Clancy's providers had drawn blood to gauge how she was reacting to her medications, and agreed when Reddington put it to him that the testing was not done. He said thyroid levels matter for psychiatric patients. It follows his answer three minutes earlier that blood work can be required before certain psychiatric medications are prescribed. Boston Globe alone.
- THE CROSS-EXAMINATION ENDED, AND ONLY ONE OUTLET DESCRIBES HOW. The Globe's 10:47 entry is the first to describe the questioning as redirect examination, which puts the end of Reddington's cross between 10:43 and 10:47. No outlet gives the moment a courtroom time, but NBC News's national live blog, posting at 10:53, reports the last question and the words on which the cross closed. Boston Globe and NBC News.
- REDIRECT — WHAT HE IS PAID, AND WHO ENGAGED HIM. At about 10:47 he said he does not regard his role as that of an investigator, that he was retained to analyze Clancy's mental state working in part from her medical records, that he was formally retained by the government in early 2025, and that he is paid for his time and work whatever opinion he reaches. At about 10:51 ADA Shanan Buckingham had him repeat that he is paid regardless of his ultimate opinion and questioned him about Park Dietz and Associates, the retention firm through which the Plymouth district attorney's office reached him. It is the Commonwealth answering the bought-opinion line Reddington ran through the morning. Boston Globe alone.
- REDIRECT — THE INTERVIEWS WERE VIDEOTAPED, AND THE COMMONWEALTH OFFERED THE TAPE. At about 10:52 he said he had not met the colleague who did the psychological testing before the two of them evaluated Clancy, that she was offered breaks more than once and declined, and that the interviews were videotaped. Judge Sullivan called counsel to sidebar as the prosecution moved the tape into evidence. Boston Globe, corroborated by Boston 25, which describes it as a video interview recorded at Tewksbury State Hospital in April. No ruling on the motion is reported.
- THE FLORIDA CASE CAME BACK AFTER THE SIDEBAR, AND HIS ANSWER ON IT MOVED. At about 10:59 the Globe reports him acknowledging that a Florida court struck his opinion in a separate case: he said Florida had retained him as an expert in a civil case about a welfare program, and that the court there ruled he was not qualified to testify to expertise in addiction treatment in that matter. At about 9:29, on cross-examination, he had said he did not believe his testimony in that case was struck. Both are recorded as reported, and no outlet says whether this came on redirect or on further cross. Boston Globe alone.
- HIS LAST ANSWERS PUT BIPOLAR DISORDER AND DEPRESSION IN THE SAME FAMILY. At about 11:08 Mack described bipolar disorder as a disorder of mood, comparable in that respect to major depressive disorder, and repeated that what he concluded Clancy had was a major depressive episode. He listed what its symptoms can include: an inability to take pleasure in things, depression, guilt, a fixation on death or suicide, problems with sleeping and eating, agitation, and difficulty concentrating. Boston Globe alone.
- HE HAS FINISHED TESTIFYING. Mack stepped down at about 11:08 and Judge Sullivan called the morning recess; Boston 25 reports his testimony concluding and the break together at 11:07. He was on the stand from Friday afternoon through Monday morning, by video link for the whole of Monday. No outlet reports a ruling on the Commonwealth's motion to put the videotape of his two interviews with Clancy in evidence. NBC News, posting at 11:20, is the only outlet to describe how the redirect closed and the judge dismissing him.
- CROSS — HOW SHE HAS BEEN AT TEWKSBURY OVER THREE YEARS. On the Patriot Ledger's account of the close of the cross, Reddington put to him that Clancy has not suffered from insomnia, anxiety, mania or depression there over the past three years, and asked whether she had shown signs of anxiety while on the right medication. Mack said she expressed feeling anxiety but that he did not know whether she exhibited symptoms of it. He agreed that she has been able to bathe, communicate and carry out other functions at the hospital. Patriot Ledger alone.
- CROSS — THE FALL OF 2022, AND THE DRUG BEHIND THE SLEEPLESS PERIOD. The Patriot Ledger dates the episode to the fall of 2022 and names the medication: after taking sertraline, Clancy did not sleep for forty-eight hours and felt she did not need to sleep. Mack answered that she desperately wanted to sleep. Reddington called a decreased need for sleep a textbook symptom of mania. The Globe reported the forty-eight hours at about 10:08 and 10:20 without the medication or the date. Patriot Ledger for both.
- CROSS — WHEN THE DEPRESSIVE EPISODE BEGAN. Mack said Clancy had a major depressive episode within four to five months of the birth, and did not say that she had postpartum depression. It measures when her episode began rather than the length of the diagnostic postpartum window, which the Globe's entries put at four weeks and, once, at four months. Patriot Ledger alone.
- CROSS — WHETHER THE MANUAL RECOGNIZES POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS AT ALL. Mack said psychiatrists cannot speak of postpartum psychosis as an illness because it has not been approved by the American Psychiatric Association. Asked whether he was saying he did not believe in or accept it, he said he had not said that at all; asked whether it is a legitimate disease or defect, he said psychosis at any time is a legitimate illness needing treatment. It is the nearest thing to an answer any outlet reports to the question the Globe recorded him leaving unanswered at 10:31, and it runs alongside CBS Boston's untimed version of the same answer. Patriot Ledger.
- CROSS — NO PSYCHOTIC FEATURES IN THE RECORDS, AND WHAT HE DID AGREE TO. He said he did not see any evidence of psychotic features in Clancy's medical records — the Globe reports the same answer at about 10:37. Asked whether a patient not feeling like herself can be a symptom of postpartum psychosis, he said it can be if the person has psychosis, and agreed that Clancy had complained of not feeling like herself. He affirmed that she had intrusive thoughts about harming the children and suicidal thoughts, and said he was not sure whether she had poor insight. Reddington then put to him that she exhibited nine of the ten symptoms of psychosis; no answer to that is reported. Patriot Ledger, alone on the nine-of-ten assertion.
- CROSS — THE TESTS HER PROVIDERS NEVER ORDERED. Mack said blood tests are needed in some situations and that in others a psychiatrist may be comfortable without one. He affirmed that Clancy's doctors and mental health providers ordered no blood test, and that no test was administered to measure how the enzymes in her blood were metabolizing her prescription medications. The Globe reported the absence of blood work at 10:40 and 10:43; the enzyme testing is the Patriot Ledger's alone, and it goes directly to the defense's medication theory.
- CROSS — HOW IT OPENED, IN NBC NEWS'S ACCOUNT. NBC News's national live blog reports the cross opening in a testy exchange, with Reddington's first questions largely on Mack's history of serving as a witness in criminal cases and Mack appearing to misremember or disagree with most of them. When Mack said he disagreed with one, Reddington answered "Says you." NBC News alone.
- CROSS — THE FIRST TIME THE BENCH TOLD HIM TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. NBC News reports Judge William Sullivan interjecting, after a lengthy and contentious back and forth, to tell Mack to listen to the question and answer the question, and places it after Reddington had pressed him on how much he earns in a year. NBC News files it at 9:42; the Boston Globe recorded the questioning about his earnings at about 9:38 without the intervention. It is the earlier of two occasions on which NBC News describes the bench directing him to answer, and is distinct from the intervention the Globe records at about 10:39. NBC News alone.
- CROSS — THE TEST FOR EXAGGERATION HAS A NAME: THE K SCALE. NBC News reports that the exchange about Mack's smile came while Reddington was pressing him on the K Scale, which Mack in the end explained as an instrument clinicians rely on to catch a patient overstating or inventing symptoms. NBC News files it at 9:48 and the Boston Globe at 9:52; both are posting times and neither gives a courtroom clock. No other outlet names the instrument.
- CROSS — HE KEPT SAYING HE HAD ANSWERED THIS ON FRIDAY. NBC News reports Mack answering a number of questions by telling him he had covered the point the other day — a reference back to when he first took the stand, and Reddington pressing him to answer regardless — "Why don't you say it again, sir?" NBC News alone.
- CROSS — POSTPARTUM IS NOT A DISEASE, AND A SECOND DIRECTION FROM THE BENCH. NBC News reports Mack repeatedly calling Clancy's condition postpartum without naming one of the illnesses that follow childbirth, and putting postpartum onset within four weeks; Reddington answered that postpartum simply means a woman has had a child, that mothers are technically postpartum for the rest of their lives, and that postpartum is not a disease. The Boston Globe records the same point from Reddington at about 10:11. NBC News adds that in the middle of it the bench had once more to tell Mack to answer what was put to him, and is alone in reporting that direction.
- CROSS — THE COMMONWEALTH OBJECTED THAT HE HAD ANSWERED ALREADY. NBC News reports the prosecution objecting to Reddington's line of questioning on the ground that Mack had answered the question repeatedly, Reddington answering "Really?", and Judge Sullivan urging Reddington to move on. NBC News does not report whether the objection was sustained. Its posting time, 10:39, is the same minute in which the Globe files the judge's instruction to the witness, and no outlet says whether the two describe one moment or two. NBC News alone.
- CROSS — THE LAST QUESTION, AND THE WORDS IT ENDED ON. NBC News gives Reddington's final question as whether Clancy's thyroid should have been checked by blood work while her doctors were prescribing her a number of psychiatric medications over the course of a few months. Mack agreed in general terms but again resisted the framing, saying he was not sure that specifically answered the question; Reddington answered "I don't care" and told the judge he was finished with the witness. It sits with the Globe's 10:43 entry on the blood work her providers never drew. NBC News's posting time is 10:53, after the Globe had already described the questioning as redirect, so the exchange had happened earlier. NBC News alone.
- REDIRECT — THE COMMONWEALTH'S LAST POINT, AND AN INTERJECTION ABOUT ACCESS TO THE DEFENDANT. NBC News reports the prosecution spending its final minutes with Mack seeking to reaffirm that Clancy had been diagnosed with postpartum depression and not postpartum psychosis, and reports Mack saying he had had a difficult time seeing Clancy himself while she was hospitalized. Reddington interjected to ask whether Mack was suggesting his office had had any control over whether Mack could see her; Mack answered that he did not know whether Reddington's office had been involved, and that he imagined it was aware but did not know. Reddington answered that he did not know, and thanked him. The judge then dismissed the witness. NBC News alone; its posting time is 11:20, after Mack had stepped down.
- CROSS — THE DSM WINDOW, AND TWO ALTERNATIVES TO IT HE ACKNOWLEDGED. Fox News Digital, in a post timed by its page at 11:00, reports him testifying that the DSM — the diagnostic manual used by psychiatrists in the United States — defines the postpartum onset specifier as four weeks after the birth, and acknowledging under cross-examination that the World Health Organization works to a different window, and that a proposed revision of the DSM would put the figure at six weeks. Fox News Digital alone on the World Health Organization and on the proposed revision, and it is the first account in which he concedes any authority giving a longer period than his own. It renders Reddington's position as postpartum depression and psychosis being able to develop up to a year or longer after a birth, and carries his line that postpartum is not a disease. The figure he gave for the window is logged in data/evidence.json, where the accounts do not agree.
- CROSS — EVERY SYMPTOM OF POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION, AND STILL NOT POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION. Hearst Connecticut's News-Times reports him agreeing under the defense's questioning that every symptom of postpartum depression was present in Clancy, who could not sleep and took no pleasure in time with family or friends, while maintaining repeatedly that she was suffering from depression rather than postpartum depression. It also has him saying there is no recognized diagnosis of postpartum psychosis while agreeing that postpartum psychosis is a legitimate finding, saying he did not know what authority sets out its symptoms, and saying he found no record of psychosis in her record while agreeing she complained of intrusive thoughts and that he did see the component he was asked about when the question turned to her feeling dissociated. Hearst Connecticut, News-Times, which gives the postpartum window in his evidence as four to six weeks. CBS Boston separately reports the legitimate-finding answer; the Boston Globe reported the no-evidence-of-psychosis answer at about 10:37.
- CROSS — A THIRD OUTLET AND A FOURTH RENDER THE ANSWER ON HIS EXPERIENCE FLATLY. Fox News Digital reports Reddington getting him to acknowledge that he had taken the stand on criminal responsibility only about three times in his career, this occasion included, and Hearst Connecticut writes that he said this is the third time. The Boston Globe at about 9:21 has him estimating one or two, which it notes would make this case about his third, and the Patriot Ledger has two prior cases. The accounts fit together rather than conflict.
- REDIRECT — WHAT THE COMMONWEALTH TOOK HIM BACK OVER, IN THE ONLY ACCOUNT OF IT. Hearst Connecticut's News-Times reports ADA Shanan Buckingham taking him back over issues Reddington had raised, among them the specifiers for postpartum depression used by the psychiatric authorities. It has him saying it is important to review the diagnoses of others but to form your own, and defining a major depressive episode as a discrete change in a person's mood lasting two weeks and persisting most days, with symptoms including a lack of pleasure, problems with sleep, eating and energy, and feeling depressed. Hearst Connecticut alone; the Boston Globe's account of the redirect at 10:47 and 10:51 covers his fee and his retention rather than the diagnosis.
- CROSS — THE MEDICATIONS SHE IS ON NOW, NAMED. boston.com reports Mack confirming at Reddington's prompting that Clancy is now being treated successfully with Zyprexa, clonidine, trazodone and, occasionally, propranolol. The Boston Globe recorded him listing her current medications at Tewksbury Hospital at about 10:08 and did not name them; boston.com is the only outlet that does. Its descriptions of what each of those drugs is ordinarily prescribed for are the outlet's own and are not recorded here as testimony.
- CROSS — WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID ABOUT THE CHILD PROTECTION RECORDS, IN A SECOND ACCOUNT THAT DOES NOT MATCH THE FIRST. boston.com reports Reddington asking him whether there are no Department of Children and Families records showing that Clancy was abusive to her children, and Mack answering that he did not think that was necessarily the conclusion of that report. The Boston Globe's entry at about 9:36 has him describing the same February 2023 records — which included an interview with Patrick Clancy — as recording no earlier instance of her abusing her children. The two accounts do not agree on whether he accepted the point put to him, and the conflict is logged rather than resolved.
- CROSS — WHETHER POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS COMES AND GOES. boston.com reports Reddington asking him to accept that postpartum psychosis rises and falls, arriving without warning and then lifting, and that a person in its grip can appear normal and even laugh. Mack said he was not sure he understood the context Reddington was offering, and noted that postpartum psychosis is not a standalone illness in the American Psychiatric Association's DSM-5. boston.com alone. It is the same ground the Boston Globe recorded at about 10:31, where the question was whether he regarded postpartum psychosis as a legitimate disease and the Globe reported no yes or no.
- CROSS — WHAT THE K SCALE IS FOR, IN A THIRD DESCRIPTION. boston.com names the instrument Reddington was pressing him on as the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory K Scale and describes it as used to measure a patient's defensiveness and denial of their symptoms, where NBC News described the same test as one providers use to determine whether patients are exaggerating or lying about their symptoms. Both descriptions are the outlets' own glosses on the same exchange rather than quotations of the witness, and both are recorded.
- REDIRECT — THE COMMONWEALTH'S ANSWER TO THE SYMPTOM LIST. boston.com reports that after Reddington ran through a series of symptoms Clancy reported experiencing and compared them with the signs of postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis, ADA Shanan Buckingham on redirect examination had Mack confirm that a major depressive episode can result in similar symptoms. boston.com alone, and it is the point his whole opinion depends on: the symptoms are not in dispute, only what they are symptoms of.
- CROSS — A NATIONAL OUTLET QUOTES A STRETCH OF THE CROSS-EXAMINATION NO OTHER ACCOUNT CARRIES. ABC News, in a post headed on the cross-examination of the Commonwealth’s expert turning heated, reports Reddington putting it to Mack that nothing in the medical records he reviewed showed Clancy indicating she had stopped participating in reality, that she was dissociated, or that she was out of touch with reality, and asking “you’re telling this jury you never saw that?” Mack answered “I don’t see that as a sign, strictly speaking, of psychosis. It may have been in some cases, but I don’t see any signs of psychosis or delusions.” After a further exchange about how postpartum psychosis might present, Mack asked whether the question was about postpartum psychosis and illness or about findings of psychosis in someone who is postpartum, and Reddington answered that he was asking about Lindsay Clancy, “the young lady that is sitting right here that you’re testifying against in front of this jury that she is responsible for the death of her children”. ABC News also reports that Mack at times refused to answer the questions put to him and that Judge Sullivan intervened more than once, which is consistent with the direction from the bench at about 10:39 already recorded here. One caution about the timing: the post is stamped 12:37 p.m. and describes the redirect examination as under way at that point, where the outlets compiled here have the cross-examination ending between 10:43 and 10:47 and Mack stepping down at about 11:08. It reads as a late filing rather than a different sequence, and the times recorded here are unchanged.
- CROSS — THE DEPRESSION SCALE IS NAMED, BY A FOURTEENTH OUTLET. Los Angeles Magazine, in an untimed narrative of the whole sitting published in the evening, is the only account to name the instrument behind the off-the-charts exchange. It reports Reddington putting to Mack that he had had the weekend to look at Clancy’s Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale result and asking what the score was; Mack could not give it from memory; and Reddington began “If I told you it was off the charts…” before an objection cut him off. The Boston Globe carried the same exchange without naming the scale and with Mack acknowledging that she was in distress. Neither account is preferred here and both are recorded. Los Angeles Magazine alone on the name of the scale.
- CROSS — THE SAME ANSWER ABOUT REALITY, READ AS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT. Los Angeles Magazine reports Mack saying he did not see distorted beliefs, and that when the question came whether anything he had seen showed Clancy out of touch with reality, Mack allowed that it did, while maintaining he did not regard it as evidence of psychosis or delusion. boston.com quotes the same passage of the cross differently, with Mack answering that he does not see that as a sign, strictly speaking, of psychosis, that it may have been in some cases, and that he sees no signs of psychosis or delusions. These are two renderings of one answer and the site records both rather than choosing between them. It also reports Judge Sullivan stepping in several times to direct Mack to answer the question put to him.
- REDIRECT — A THIRD ACCOUNT OF WHEN THE COMMONWEALTH ENGAGED HIM, AND THE ONLY ONE TO CARRY BOTH DATES. Los Angeles Magazine reports Mack testifying on redirect that talk of engaging him started in 2024 and the formal retainer followed in 2025. It is the first account to put both dates in one answer, and it sits across East Idaho News’s late 2024 and the Boston Globe’s early 2025. The conflict is logged in the evidence index and is not resolved here. Los Angeles Magazine alone.